MasiSweetz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

nonsense

nealadamsdotcom (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@nealadamsdotcom To collect into Meteorites and Planetesmals to accrete, and gain moons, etc.The Sun's field spreads outward and carries the Planets outward. Gas giants grow incredibly and fly off to become new second generation stars with already begun Solar Systems, (Like Jupiter.) Ours is a second Generation star. Jupiter will be a third generation.

nealadamsdotcom (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@sdohmi Your friend BillyHerbie agrees with you. Hey Billy.In your imagination consider this pix. A Galaxy begins with a Black hole. Which,...fires out Electrons and Positrons from each pole which collect along it's lineems to distribute as Hydrogen on the Black Hole's equatorial distance to accumulate as massive Hydrogen! Like Planets this H forms eddys which collect into Growing, collecting H suns. These in time process H into he, fires it into its EM System t collect

sdohmi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@nealadamsdotcom We can hold the discussion 4.5 gigayears (billions I think?) until the Sun becomes a red giant, very large in size, but very dim and quite less bright as it is now. Unfortunately we'll be long gone by then. You have however look for red giants in the Hertzsprung–Russell diagram and settle the question right now :))

nealadamsdotcom (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@sdohmi You guys are just making s**t up as you go to explain observations. Just like Big Bang theorists. You make observations. You take what has gone on for 150 years and you list your terrifying fears that you can't touch and CAN'T BE POSSIBLE, and you shove around theories until everyone shits up and you buils new theories on top of THAT CRAP!It's idiotic. If I did science like that, I'd quit!The sun get's BRIGHTER, for the same reason the continents spread apart. The Sun is growing

BillyHerbie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@sdohmi there's no need to even validate this loon with an argument, this video has to be one of the biggest piles of crap i've ever seen

sdohmi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@nealadamsdotcom I never said that high-energy photons give us quarks. Indeed it is quite impossible. The energy of th photon would be too high. Most of the mass of the quarks is due to the energy of the strong nuclear interaction. This interaction is measured very nicely with certain quarkoniums (two quarks) like the mesons. Strong nuclear interaction explains the observed energy levels with great accuracy.

sdohmi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@nealadamsdotcom It cannot be instant conversion because for that conversion to occur a collision between 2 protons has to occur. The probability of such a collision is proportional to the density of protons of course. In addition, for the 2 protons to overcome its electric repulsion to fuse they must travel at a given speed: this is achieved at certain temperatures. If you say that the growing universe explains the Sun it is because you do not understand the Sun: at all.

sdohmi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@nealadamsdotcom No Sir. The percentage has not been constant. Indeed the H to He4 conversion has three different branches: called PP1, PP2 and PP3 chains. Each of them ignite at a larger temperature Each of them converts a little bit more of hydrogen into Helium and each of them produces a larger mass loss. Indeed, once the Sun runs out of hydrogen it has only two possibilities: if by them the temperature is high enough it will start burning He4 into C8. If it does not it will slowly die.

nealadamsdotcom (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@sdohmi OH? hmmmm well we know the process that makes Electrons and Positrons. Suppose you tell me what High Energy Photon gives us QUARKS? And, while you're at it how they assemble into Protons without disappating? Hmmm?